into her defense? >> it does in a significant way because the photographs that were taken are very sexually explicit. and, remember, the cornerstone of her defense is that she was abused, whether it was mentally, whether it was tormented, whether it was controlled, and that he, in fact, used her as a sexual object. and so i think that the defense, in really walking a fine line, becausyou never want to demonize a victim, poppy, at all, because it has a backlashing effect, but i think they're going to have to establish through the photos that, see, this is the travis alexander that no one knew, i knew him, i couldn't take it, as a result, i defended myself. so that's what we're going to see, i think, as the defense case unfolds. >> they'll be there to hear her voice, obviously. he's dead, they won't hear from him. it is a real question of trust there on behalf of the jurors. thank you so much, joey. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. we're minutes away from president obama kicking off his push for immigration reform. he's going to do it live in las vegas at a school there, but does his plan mesh with the senators who introduced their own plan just yesterday?